What the Bible Really Says About Homosexuality
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  • Neither thorough nor honest
What the Bible Really Says About Homosexuality
Daniel A. Helminiak
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3 out of 5 stars OK, but . . ........2007-09-20

A thoughtful work by a good scholar, but what seemed lacking to me was proper attentiveness to what the Bible really teaches about human sexuality. On the whole, it seems pretty clear that God created man and woman for one another and to bring forth children into the world. The covenantal commitment of marriage is also affirmed as the proper context for sexual relations and childbearing -- anything else being fornication or adultery. Considered in this over-arching context, it is difficult to concede that the biblical writers' primary objection to homosexuality pertained to issues of cleanliness. Heterosexual marriage was what God intended and blessed, so much so that Paul considered marriage to be a paradigm for Christ's fruitful relationship with the Church. Helminiak's careful scholarship notwithstanding, I'm not convinced that the Bible takes a more liberal view of homosexuality than has traditionally been maintained. Biblical teachings on charity and justice offer more hope for acceptance of homosexuals than do attempts to show that the Bible doesn't really regard it as ethically objectionable.

5 out of 5 stars Book brings to light the historical context of Biblical passages, .......2007-08-28

So-called Christians of today who use the "gay clobbering" passages (passages that instead should provide us with a perspective of the times in which people were living, i.e., Jewish Laws and a perspective of THE PERSON WRITING THE TEXT) to uphold their convictions are not remembering this passage -- What JESUS said. Let's not forget that there will always be interpretations and misinterpretations, but only one word from the Son of God:

Matthew 37:40 (He = Jesus; most important to this discussion: 39-40)
37 And He said to him, " `YOU SHALL LOVE THE LORD YOUR GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART, AND WITH ALL YOUR SOUL, AND WITH ALL YOUR MIND.' 38 "This is the great and foremost commandment. 39 "The second is like it, `YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.' 40 "On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets."

5 out of 5 stars What the Bible Really Says about Homosexuality.......2006-07-24

Good book, packaging ect.. good. Shipping a pain had to be there to sign for a $10.00 book. Would have been easier to order through Barnes and Noble.

4 out of 5 stars Tip of the iceberg in the scholarly research in the subject.......2006-02-25

Prejudice and downright loathing for homosexuals must have inspired the writing of this book. It is a sad realization, in fact, reality, that Bible religion plays a pillar role in allowing the persecution to happen. Sexuality, at least in the regard of showing affection for one another, should be detached from any religious judgment because it is the core of human experience in which person gets emotionally close to another person and commits passionately to the person. Granted the affection is genuine and mutual, it should be recognized and honored regardless of sex. Embracing this firm belief Helminiak thrives to study, through a historically critical perspective, the Bible's stand on the issue.

The hinge must lies in how the Bible is being read. According to Helminiak, the Bible supplies no basis for the condemnation of homosexuality. Why should God condemn homosexuality if all of us are part of God's inscrutable and loving plan for us? Moreover mounting scientific evidence shows that homosexuality is not a choice. There is no credible evidence that sexual orientation can be changed or convincing argument that it should be.

The biblical scholarship has overturned inveterate beliefs that over the years the church has so meticulously imbued to me through selective use of scriptures. Popular culture, social taboo, and customs have stamped the seal of approval to these beliefs. But looking back at these teachings, they are nothing more than customs being adopted as the law. Helminiak's position is forthright and is fueled by judicious assessment of historical-critical research. The Bible itself takes no direct stand on the morality of homogenital acts or on the morality of gay and lesbian relationships. Detailed study of language and translation confides that it makes no blanket condemnation of homogenital acts and even less of homosexuality. It is indifferent to homosexuality in itself.

1 out of 5 stars Neither thorough nor honest.......2006-02-07

As is obvious from his title, Mr. Helminiak believes that he is able to provide special insight regarding Biblical teaching on homosexuality. But he makes clear from the beginning that he does not really care what the Bible says: "As a Roman Catholic - and more importantly, a thinking person - I do not presume the Bible has the last word on sexual ethics" (19). He approaches the Biblical text as though it had no Divine origin whatsoever. He relegates God's description of homosexuality as "abomination" (Lev. 18:22; 20:13; cf. Prov. 6:16) to the Israelites' personal qualms about such activity: "The early Israelites considered it unclean. They thought it was dirty. They prohibited it not because it was wrong in itself but because it offended their religious worldview" (63). Of course, God had no problems with offending the Israelites' religious worldview (cf. Ex. 32). Helminiak will deny authorship of a passage if it conflicts with his prejudice. In asserting that the sin of Sodom was actually "inhospitality," he cites a few passages (including the non-canonical Book of Wisdom) and concludes "The Bible often uses Sodom as an example of the worst sinfulness, but the concern is NEVER simply sexual acts" (49). But in this section, Helminiak fails even to consider Jude 7, which establishes beyond a shadow of a doubt that the sin and punishment of Sodom concerned sexual sins.

Obviously, I cannot endorse a book that violates Biblical teaching. But for one looking to justify what the Bible clearly condemns, perhaps a better effort is made elsewhere.
WHAT THE BIBLE REALLY SAYS ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY
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    Daniel Helminiak
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    The Uaw and the Heyday of American Liberalism 1945-1968
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    "Kevin Boyle has done a masterful job of identifying the unique contribution of the UAW, not only to American Liberalism, but also to the nation and to all people. As contemporary labor and society at large search for new directions, this book should be required reading."--Victor G. Reuther

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    5 out of 5 stars A wonderful analysis of labor liberalism.......1999-06-20

    This is a great 'hidden wonder' of recent American Labor History.

    As an unabashed and truly proud pro-labor, pro-New Deal and pro-working class Democrat and Progressive("Progressive" in the real, tough and true sense, not the ACLU-'save the spotted owl' and 'hug a treee' sense), I loved this book as both a study in recent history, and a tribute to one of the greatest movements ever produced on God's green earth.

    The American Labor movement - as comparatively small as it may be - is one of this nation's greatest movements, alongside the abolitionist and civil rights ones. In the past 100 years, this movement, along with its allies in the Democratic party and other forward looking sections of the U.S., has given us the 40 Hour Work Week, the Minimum Wage, child labor laws, public works, Social Security, the safety net, Food Stamps, Medicare, Medicaid, consumer safety laws, public employment programs for the at-risk, OSHA and various anti-discrimination laws. This is the movement which has dared to look into the face of greed and demand true justice.

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    The book is right when, in the end, it states that we need forward looking voices like the UAW in our culture to demand an end to injustice and keep the forces of injustice in check. We need voices to stand up to right wing efforts to scale back labor laws for the working man and woman, civil rights and health care, day care, family leave and wage oriented legislation of the past. We need more moral voices for American workers and their allies across the world. This book is such a voice. I especially loved the part of George Wallace. This bigoted demagogue constantly exploited the working class by giving out racist rhetoric which was - as some saw it unfortunately - 'pro worker.' Wallace's current followers of the past 20 years include Ronald Reagan, George Bush, Newt Gingrich and the Lott/Delay gang in the Congress. All of these overlook - and ignore - class in order to protect their rich special interests. Instead, they bash the welfare mother, the immigrant and the ghetto child - and call that 'progress.'

    May the American labor movement not only stop falling, but may it rise again to successfully demand justice for the working American and his or her family. God would want nothing more from us.
    UAW and the heyday of American liberalism 1945-1968.: An article from: Labour/Le Travail
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                5 out of 5 stars Rural lawyer and master storyteller spins hilarious tales.......2007-05-25

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                5 out of 5 stars Gelly "Gets" Getz, he's Gellin' Like Magellan.......2007-04-29

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                Getz's nickname was "The Sound" and the sound was lush, beautiful, lyrical, melodic, and swung like crazy. But Stan, "The Man" was a different story, and it is a paradox that such lovely music could come from someone so flawed. Heroin addiction at one point caused a desperate young Getz to attempt to rob a pharmacy. He later kicked heroin, but was an alcoholic wife beater. He was not the best parent. He was jealous of Chet Baker. He was an adulterous womanizer.

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                    This writer seems to have the single purpose of pointing out the flaws of ESPN and leaves out all the great and interesting stories I wanted to read about. Again and again he writes about sexual harrasment at the network. Well, yes, that's bad stuff, and worthy of a chapter. But that is basically the subject of the whole book! How about some good stories about the anchors and play-by-play of how they got some of the biggest scoops, etc? This book is all about the internal bickering and problems. At the end he takes a couple more swipes at Berman and ESPN for a few mistakes they and their people made. He just wants to uncover dirt and obsess about it. Basically, it reads as if Keith Olbermann told him what to write and he wrote it verbatim. Had potential to be a great book, but instead it is just another loser reporter taking shots at all the weaknesses of a great American success story, leaving out all the wonderful parts. Yes, we've heard it all before: American businesses are all evil, right? If you think we are so bad, Freeman, move somewhere else.

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                    5 out of 5 stars Strongly recommended reading for all sports buffs.......2002-03-26

                    ESPN: The Uncensored History by sports journalist Michael Freeman is an eye-opening, bare-all look at the global telecommunications network that since its inception in 1979 as the "Entertainment and Sports Programming Network", has gone on to become virtually synonymous with televised sports. From its relatively humble origins, ESPN has gone on to expand into additional offerings for the dedicated sports enthusiast including ESPN2, ESPN Classic Sports, ESPNews, and ESPN Magazine. Extensively researched, ESPN: The Uncensored History presents a fascinating, candid, revealing story in clear, unambiguous, and highly evocative language. A singularly memorable and compelling "tell-all" book, ESPN: The Uncensored History is strongly recommended reading for all sports buffs.
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                      ESPN Scores a Touchdown.(Review) (book review): An article from: Video Age International
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                      Data Model Patterns: Conventions of Thought
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                      • Potentially valuable, but primarily as a reference.
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                      Data Model Patterns: Conventions of Thought
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                      5 out of 5 stars THE BOOK on data modelling.......2007-04-26

                      In his own data modeling consulting, David Hay discovered that for all enterprises, there were common patterns of entities and relationships in various topical areas, whatever the organization. So he set about capturing those ideas in very high-level data models, and he put them together in a book.

                      This book is quite an intellectual accomplishment, because he has boiled down many different areas into their essentials and has captured those essentials. If you face a data modelling problem, it's likely that one or more of his patterns will work for you and jump-start your efforts.

                      These are high level models, and don't take you all the way to database design. You'll still have a lot of design decisions to make. But the framework given in these models will help you explore your own problem to discover if you've covered all the eventualities that Mr. Hay considered in his work.

                      4 out of 5 stars Good introduction to data modelling.......2006-11-07

                      If you have any interest in modelling domains, then you've probably already read, or are planning to read, Martin Fowler's Analysis Patterns. The models here share some overlap with that book, but this is a gentler introduction, so I would recommend this book for a beginner, before they read the Fowler book. A more experienced modeller should probably consider this as a catalogue of off-the-shelf models.

                      This book covers modelling enterprises - e.g. businesses and government agencies, and the relationships between their employees, organisational structures and the products and services they provide.

                      The fundamental models applicable to enterprises are covered here: the business itself, its employees and their positions; the products they produce and the equipment used to produce them; the activities carried out to produce the products; and the contracts between a buyer and seller that deliver the products and services. Later chapters cover some more specific examples, including accounting, laboratories, and manufacturing.

                      It is true that the models aren't very detailed, but that's the point of the book - for pretty much any enterprise, these models can be used as starting points, while covering most of the relationships that are likely to be encountered. It's true that you won't get any advice on actually converting the models to a database or an object oriented design, but that's beyond the scope of the book.

                      While an expert modeller won't find the in-depth treatment they might be looking for, I would definitely recommend this to a beginner. Unfortunately, there's no insight into the process of decomposing a domain, although the last chapter demonstrates wide applicability of the models by applying them to a theatre. What you do get are lots of simple examples of the finished output, which will provide inspiration, even if you have no particular interest in the enterprise domain itself.

                      5 out of 5 stars From Starters to Main Course.......2006-03-05

                      Very satisfying reading experience. Starting off rudimentary and keying into a maturity withing 5 chapters - hats off to David.

                      I am looking forward to his new book on meta data.

                      4 out of 5 stars Potentially valuable, but primarily as a reference........2005-06-01

                      I've done some data modeling, and much more process modeling, so I was familiar with Mr. Hay's objectives with respect to data and restricting the model to logical representations of data, whatever that may be.

                      About six chapters into this book, I realize that while I could continue through to the end, I would likely find this more useful as a companion to a problem. I think the majority of non-academic readers, software practitioners if you will, will extract the necessary value from owning this book given a specific objective, i.e. I have to develop a work management model from scratch, and these are my (current) business rules.

                      The book covers so many kinds of models that it's entirely possible a reader will have no practical frame of reference, such as the chapter on accounting. Modern accounting software is primarily off-the-shelf, so developing a data model for it isn't something very common today. However, the smart developer understands that living "in the spaces between" software is a very good line of business, so to that end knowing what an ideal data model might have is certainly valuable ammunition when weighing vendor claims and evaluating solutions.

                      Because it lacks that sort of accessible readability, I am withholding a star. I'd have withheld a half-star if it were possible; I believe the book has great value to a developer or analyst.

                      Fred

                      5 out of 5 stars Learn to think like a data modeler.......2005-02-26

                      I can understand why this book has gotten some mixed reviews. The author addresses many common modeling problems. But readers looking for instant solutions to those problems will probably be disappointed. Those looking for oop patterns are reading the wrong book. And anyone looking for a beginner's introduction to data modeling will be completely lost. But if you've been feeling as if your database designs could be better, but you're not sure how, you need this book.

                      Mr. Hay covers many real-world modeling problems. His discussions of these problems give incredible insight into the thought process of a professional data modeler. That is the true value of this book.

                      I first read this book about three years ago and now I am totally embarrassed by every database I created before. I've re-read it many times since and my copy is beaten and dog-eared. Thankfully, it's a hardcover book.

                      Make sure you read all the footnotes in the book. Some of them are hysterically funny.

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